@ stan & zing - you have a PM.
The JW's are getting a bit irked by my subtle questions to them. They now say "We don't care to argue about this anymore." LOL - standard JW response nowadays.
There wasn't any argument, folks!
i just came across a pair of jw's on ebay who are flogging off nearly 2000 "religious" items.. is it just me, or are jw's hypocrites when they make cash by selling old light publications which now contain "wrong teachings," or much worse, by selling books etc.
which were created by members of apostate christendom and contain teachings which contradict their self-appointed "faithful slave?
is there a bible example/principle here?.
@ stan & zing - you have a PM.
The JW's are getting a bit irked by my subtle questions to them. They now say "We don't care to argue about this anymore." LOL - standard JW response nowadays.
There wasn't any argument, folks!
i just came across a pair of jw's on ebay who are flogging off nearly 2000 "religious" items.. is it just me, or are jw's hypocrites when they make cash by selling old light publications which now contain "wrong teachings," or much worse, by selling books etc.
which were created by members of apostate christendom and contain teachings which contradict their self-appointed "faithful slave?
is there a bible example/principle here?.
@ stan & zing - on their eBay page, they declare that they've "been in the truth for over 50 years" and their photo shows them standing at a trolley.
i just came across a pair of jw's on ebay who are flogging off nearly 2000 "religious" items.. is it just me, or are jw's hypocrites when they make cash by selling old light publications which now contain "wrong teachings," or much worse, by selling books etc.
which were created by members of apostate christendom and contain teachings which contradict their self-appointed "faithful slave?
is there a bible example/principle here?.
I just came across a pair of JW's on eBay who are flogging off nearly 2000 "religious" items.
Is it just me, or are JW's hypocrites when they make cash by selling old light publications which now contain "wrong teachings," or much worse, by selling books etc. which were created by members of apostate Christendom and contain teachings which contradict their self-appointed "faithful slave?"
Is there a Bible example/principle here?
Oh yeah - Acts 19:19 - "Indeed, quite a number of those who practiced magical arts brought their books together and burned them up before everybody. And they calculated their value and found them worth 50,000 pieces of silver."
Isn't it perverse - JW congregations have been tossing out their library items and entrepreneurial JW's have been "acquiring" the stuff - to make money out of other JW's. Love for one another? Love for money! :(
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@ respectful observer - Malta is saturated with foreigners from EU and eastern European countries since joining the EU several years ago - especially Serbians. (I know, they're not in the EU. Don't ask!)
So it can be seen from the org's wording that they are not looking for foreign language speaking JW's to help convert the immigrants, but rather, to tackle the serious lack/decline in the native Maltese JW numbers.
Good news indeed! :)
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Thanks Atlantis. It's good to see the org sticking to the scriptures in order to replicate the wording of the baptismal questions.
(1) “Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?”
(2) “Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?”
These are the exact same questions which Peter asked Cornelius and his household to answer.
You'll find them in Acts 37:45.
i’ve just finished reading your book, couldn’t put it down!
what a great work!
it’s disgusting what the organization does in “god’s name”!!
What did you say, Stan?
by what age should parents stop bathing and wiping their children's bottoms?
when are these actions a definitely no-no?.
Never had to deal with such a scenario - thankfully!
But my best friend who is a house-husband, eventually ceased this process for his two little daughters by the time they were 3-4 years old. Trained them quite quickly to do it for themselves.
Which reminds me: I used to get quite embarrassed sometimes when I was out with my mother and I needed to pee. She'd stand me at the edge of the pavement/sidewalk, pull down my trousers and underpants, and get me to pee in the gutter. I'd complain to her, "Mum, stop doing this to me. I'm twenty six years old now!"
is god responsible for every good thing that happens in your life?
i ask this because a brother gave a talk several weeks ago and said that.
he said when anything positive happens, we must not assume it was by mere coincidence, but we have to have 100% confidence that jehovah cares for us and was involved.. however, people complain that jehovah doesn’t answer their prayers and are told you have to keep asking, you need to show him you really want it bad.
Biblically, God will answer all prayers when "the god of this system of things" reign is removed and replaced by Christ's rulership.
Does God answer any prayers for less pain, more money, new job, more food, a better home, etc? Nope!
Sorry to disagree with Elder Stab-in-the-back in my previous congregation, but the local council was not divinely influenced by God to give you and your Mrs. a nice little bungalow after you prayed for it.
Attributing events which are the result of personal endeavour, happen-stance or serendipity to the results of prayer, is effectively declaring yourself to be more favoured by God than others who pray - but receive nothing!
http://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations.
Fan-bloody-tastic!
Pity it wasn't the HQ as the O.P. title mistakenly states - it's a Branch Office. But still, it's a start.
so the past few months since we’ve been married, we’ve hardly been going to the meetings.
and my mother says that an informer has been calling her to “tell on us” for not going to the meetings.
we’ve told some people that we have been attending meetings in a different area and hall since we are considering moving there.
Hi Addison, it looks like it's time for you both to put on the complete suit of fading armour!
If you apply these crucial principles to your situation, you may save yourself a lot of grief. In order to fade as painlessly & safely as possible from the org, it is imperative to always keep this in mind when in the presence of J.W.'s, especially if it's elders: "Divulge nothing".
Giving personal information to such ones will be like putting a rope around your own neck. Sadly, many J.W.'s don't believe they have the nerve/courage/know-how to refuse to discuss things when questioned by the "appointed shepherds."
NEVER forget that elders know they cannot force you to talk with them, so they rely on your fear of their non-existent authority in order to make you comply with their interrogation.
The following applies whether you attend the hall or not and is by no means comprehensive, but it is simple, straightforward, and very effective if you are offered a "shepherding call" or invited into the back room at the Kingdom Hall for a "chat".
If the former, simply say, "thanks for your offer brothers, but not at the moment. I'll let you know when I feel ready."
If the latter, enter the room and let them reveal what's on their minds. (your lack of field service, meeting attendance, etc.)
Now you're ready to say something along these lines: "Thank you for your concerns brothers, but I have private & personal issues which I can't discuss with anyone at the moment, but I certainly appreciate your motives and concern. If things change, it's good to know that I can call you. Thank you for your offer".
Elders' Conversation Stoppers:
1) "We only want to come and give you encouragement." Simply repeat the response above - especially the phrase "private & personal."!
2) "But how can we help you if you won't talk to us?" "Everyone has private & personal situations which they can't discuss with others, and I'm sure that includes the elders - I'm no different!"
3) "Are you refusing to talk with us?" "No, I just don't want to discuss things right now. I'll call you if things change."
If they push with their interrogation, just say 'thanks' and walk away immediately!
Do not prolong the interrogation. They can't punish you for ending a conversation! Repeat any/all of the above to ANYONE who tries to extract information from you, because the elders MAY get someone you TRUST to try and get information out of you!
If you rehearse & practice your responses, you will be so much more confident and able to fend off any attempts to ambush you. Always display a meek but firm disposition.
NEVER act confrontational with the wolves, because there's always ONE in the pack who will go for you!
Best wishes for a happy fade.